What is the IBU cutoff between a Pale Ale and an IPA?
Granted these are different techniques, there seems to be a line where Pale Ales start to become more bitter and hoppy and IPA-esque. The thing is that Pale Ales don't usually list thier IBU on the bottle.
Hence the question; does anyone know about where Pale Ales end and IPAs begin, with regard to bitterness at least?